Seth Godin is a perceptive individual. He spots things the rest of us are too busy to see, and then lets us know about them in an easily-digestible format. Sounds like a cracking formula for a best-selling author if you ask me... and of course he is.
With a dozen titles to his name, including Tribes, Meatball Sundae, perhaps most famously Permission Marketing, and most recently Linchpin, interviewing Seth was always going to be both entertaining and insightful.
Seth packs in several super observations in just ten short minutes.
Describing PR, historically, as "a human form of spam" is always going to grab your attention, but Seth doesn't dwell on the negatives for long. Rather, he is upbeat about the prospects for public relations in re-establishing itself as the profession responsible for forging relationships, for listening and conversing, and for caring for reputations, thereby differentiating itself clearly from publicity.
And it seems the PR profession is starting to attend to its own reputation. When talking with the teams at the CIPR and PRSA for example, I'm seeing action and results in putting clear blue water between the PR profession and what the popular press loves to call "spin".
I've never felt a connection between what I do and "spin", so the sooner perception catches up with reality the better. And if that means leaving an assortment of practitioners behind, or more specifically in the publicity camp, then let's simply keep making that distinction.
Trevor Young PR Warrior says:
Great interview Philip, really enjoyed it. I've followed Godin for some time but it was good to hear him throwing up the challenge to the PR industry!
25 July 2010 — 8:53 am
patrickdh says:
Nice mix and insight from great conversation
2 August 2010 — 2:26 pm
Adam Barber says:
Thanks for the interview Philip - another fantastic insight into the mind of a very smart man.
At the heart of this argument of course, is an increasingly dangerous move towards PR becoming just another marketing commodity. And as Seth so clearly articulates, when PR becomes a commodity, the only real differentiator can be the price.
Within the corporate and business markets, some smart operators have already recognised this and in taking the relationships one step further, have in effect started to encroach on the turf of management consultancies, an interesting move and certainly something to watch...
http://black-bored.blogspot.com/2010/08/pr-human-form-of-spam.html
2 August 2010 — 4:27 pm
Michael says:
Always great to hear Seth speak and the way he just makes everything seem so easy and simple.
Your questions were good to get the PR side of the equation and not just he normal marketing side from Seth.
Well done
15 August 2010 — 8:24 am